This is going to be difficult to explain, so please bear with me. I suggest you get a coffee and make yourself comfortable!

When looking at PBs for a particular race distance, GRG shows the top ten times for races run at, or over, the nominal distance.

Unfortunately, where a race, which one has to assume has been measured correctly by the powers that be, has been recorded in GRG whether using a member's saved route or the organsier's (whether GPS recorded or plotted using the mapping function), and that saved route is marginally short of the race distance, then that race will not appear along with other races which are recorded as at or over the nominal distance.

Still with me? Here's an example: I have quite a few 5km races recorded in my log book. On the Race Distance PBs '5K +' tab I can see nine 5km races, mainly parkruns, and one 5-miler, but on the '1 Mile +' tab I can see several other '5km' races which appear as 3.07, 3.08 or 3.09 miles - slightly short of 3.11 miles or 5 km.

Similarly, the Rutland Water Marathon appears on the 'Half-Marathon +' tab, but not on the 'Marathon +' tab, because the saved route is a little short, at 26.15 miles.

The only way I've found round this, and it's a bit of a faff, frankly, is to use the log book search, specifying 'Race' as the Run Type, set min and max distances to include all those routes measured short or long, and then sort by time, ascending.

This is also one of few pages (I can't think of another, off-hand) which does not offer the option to toggle between metric and imperial distances.

Is there any way that saved race routes can be amended to show the correct (that is, the nominal) distance, without losing links to the map, hill profile and pace information?

Thanks for sticking with me, hope I've made myself clear!

Thanks John, I thought it might need something like that.

I've had a go and it's OK as a 'workaround'. I've also discovered, though, that if you edit a route without actually changing the plotted route, you can edit the calculated total distance when saving it. This then reflects in linked log book entries. If you try to edit the route again, though, it will default back to the calculated distance.

Cheers!

Don't you just hate it when a race distance falls short of the stated event, fortunately UKA races are reasonably good, but I ran a 5 mile charity event a couple of weeks ago, not validated by UKA or any other official body.

My intention was to go for a new PB of 34 minutes or less, guess what I came in second place overall with a time of 30:12, and when I checked my Garmin and then validated on my computer using the GRG mapping tool it came out at 4.43 miles...gutted or what as if it had been the full 5 miles it would have been a PB and one of this year goals would have been ticked off. Grrrrr

I've only come across that once, in a supposed 10k a few years ago which turned out to be about 8.5 km. Very annoying, but it was so short I immediately realised something was wrong, and this was before I had my Garmin. It was organised by the British Institute of Insurers. Not like them to exaggerate...

To be fair it was, like your race, a charity do, and they made no claims for accuracy.

My problem below was where my own (or anyone else's) GPS measured route, saved to GRG, came up a tad short, as they sometimes do (we all know Garmins etc aren't precision instruments!) even when the course has been accurately measured.

Here's another one for you, John - grab another coffee!

The results from the weekend's parkrun were amended a few days after they were first published (was equal PB, now a full PB by 4 seconds!).

I've updated my time in the training log, and the new time appears in both the Log Book and Personal Bests.

I notice that in Race History the race on 29/01/11 (my previous PB at 19:53) shows as an Age-Graded PB while the race on 12/02/11 shows only as a Pace PB.

Because of this, in the Member Leagues I see the new time (19:49) in 'Fastest Runner/Man (10K Race Equivalent)', but the old time (19:53) in 'Best Race/Recent Race Performance (Age-Graded)'.

Surely, since they were on the same course, and only two weeks apart (I'm still 50!), the faster run should be both Age-Graded PB and Pace PB?

Don't waste too much time on this if you're busy - it's not a high priority!

Dave I've earmarked 26th March for the Cannon Hill Parkrun (my first Parkrun) as that is two weeks after Fradley and two weeks before the Midland Lung Run, so you have a bit of time to improve on that before I take it off you ;-).

He he! If you think your man enough!

Sadly I won't be running that day as I have the Action Heart 5M in Dudley on the Sunday, but I'll be there volunteering. Don't know what my role will be as yet - if I'm at the finish funnel there'll be no point in tripping you up...

Watch out for the goose poop and stupid pigeons. I ran at some pigeons last week expecting them to move, and ended up having to hurdle them!